Conquest Cup 2019 is a go!

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Hi All, details and info to go up this weekend, this year will see Luke Morgan coming on board as TO to try and make things happen better than when its just me doing things.

Preliminary Information
Date Easter Saturday
Times & Location
Conquest 2019 location:
Colonel Room, Batman Royale,
14 Gaffney St, Coburg North VIC 3058
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Melways 17/H10
Public transport
Train: Catch the Upfield line and get off at Batman station.
Tram: Take the number 19 tram - Flinders Street to Coburg North. Get off at stop 37: Gaffney St/Sydney Rd.
Bus: Route 354 - Glenroy to Coburg via Boundary Road, Sydney Road (view on PTV website).
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Car parking is available on-site for attendees and visitors.
https://www.conquest.asn.au/times-location/

Format and rules details will be confirmed this weekend.
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Good morning sports fans. Yes that’s right it’s time to get pumped! Conquest is back and it’s going to be bigger and better than ever.

There will be some changes to previous iterations of the tournament so please take the time to familiarise yourself with the player pack (attached).

Please note that if you are cruising around the Conquest (the convention) website you won’t find Blood Bowl mentioned yet. Don’t panic though, the submission has been made and Conquest will update their website in due time.

However until 100% firm with the convention we are not going to take your hard earned money for registration. As such we are taking ‘expressions of interest’ until March. This will enable us to get more sponsors which will ultimately lead to a more awesome tournament.

So express that interest by letting us know if you intend on coming!

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2 pts per TD, 1 pt per CAS, 5 pts if you win(Edit: or draw!) while suffering 4 CAS more than your opponent. Good scoring system, I’ve always thought Skaven and Wood Elves needed a leg up.
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So just to be clear, its Primary Points that decides the winner? Not the sum of primary and secondary?
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Moraiwe wrote:2 pts per TD, 1 pt per CAS, 5 pts if you win(Edit: or draw!) while suffering 4 CAS more than your opponent. Good scoring system, I’ve always thought Skaven and Wood Elves needed a leg up.
Haha who had money on Steve being the first to be critical?

I do appreciate the comment though and I'm glad you bought it up.

I hope to bring a different flavour to the game play of Conquest. I hope to promote a fast paced high scoring feel to the competition with less bash and grind domination.

Hopefully that makes sense. And hopefully you're willing to give it a go regardless Steve [emoji4]



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So, the bonus points are the second or first tiebreaker? There’s been some confusion on discord. If second, I have no issue with this ruleset.
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By the way, Luke. Where did you get the idea that bash and grind dominates?

Have a look at the stats... https://member.thenaf.net/index.php?mod ... statistics
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Moraiwe wrote:By the way, Luke. Where did you get the idea that bash and grind dominates?

Have a look at the stats... https://member.thenaf.net/index.php?mod ... statistics
The stats were very useful Steve. So thank you however, to answer your question its recent results that lead me to believe bash dominates Vic.

Let's look at 2018:

Goldcrush - 1st: Khemri 2nd: Chaos 3rd: Vamps
Little V - 1st: Human 2nd: Wood elf 3rd: ?
Mayhem - 1st: Necro 2nd: Pact 3rd: Chaos
Big V - 1st: Undead 2nd: Khemri 3rd: Chaos

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With regards to the points system, I will review and publish a decision by the end of the long weekend (Monday 28 Jan 19).

Happy to take suggestions as I review. Thank you for your support.

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Just my feedback (although I will definitely be coming along along barring some disaster):

- Love this format, one of my favourites.

- Don't like the secondary points being included for the overall score, prefer it as a tie breaker (probably after SOS). I'm not sure how many people remember but Goldcrush 2016 tried something similar (not sure if it was the same additional points but they look similar). We ended up with a scenario where the two undefeated coaches didn't play each other in the final round of the tournament, and it left a bit of a bitter taste in the mouth after what was overall a fantastic day.
I like the idea of promoting different teams but I think this is better done by the ruleset. As the results you posted above show, Vic actually has some great rulesets that really promote teams that you wouldn't normally see at tournaments (in what other place would you have a podium of Khemri, Chaos and Vamps?!?).

I think the reason that you see less AG is more that Vic coaches (more so the ones that consistently attend Vic tournies) just tend to lean more towards 'bash' or 'control'. Outside perhaps myself, yourself and James (could maybe slot Jonno in there but he seems to flip between a few different teams) all of the others would probably prefer to play 'bash' or 'control'.

Just my two cents, thanks for running it this year! :)
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Yeah, definitely like to play varied teams. Yep, had a cock up as Liam
says in 2016 with similar rules. My 2c is the same as Liam’s but will be attending regardless. Good to see you boys have got it off the ground. I right in assuming compliments still get you +1 FAME for the tourney?
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Thanks for the input Liam and Jonno. I mean that sincerely, as I really want to deliver a good Conquest. Especially as Joe has trusted me with it.

Just for info, the scoring system was a legacy from Conquest 2017 however I'm not sure exactly how Joe input the data.

Am strongly leaning toward keeping it simple. Thanks again for the constructive feed back
Jonno wrote:Yeah, definitely like to play varied teams. Yep, had a cock up as Liam
says in 2016 with similar rules. My 2c is the same as Liam’s but will be attending regardless. Good to see you boys have got it off the ground. I right in assuming compliments still get you +1 FAME for the tourney?
Even if I did do +1FAME for compliments i still dont think Steve could bring himself to say something nice haha

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After careful consideration, taking into account the feedback provided the points system will be amended so that the secondary points will only be used as a tie breaker after SoS. The players pack will be changed to reflect this though only a small tweak is required. It will be worded as such:

Tournament Champion will be awarded to the coach who has accumulated the primary most points after four rounds. Points can be scored through various means during the conduct of a match.

Thanks again for input, feedback and discussion. I look forward to bringing you all Conquest news as we draw nearer the day.


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Looking forward to it :)
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Hey Luke, just a reminder to register the event with the NAF if you haven't done so already (it's not currently listed there).
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Application has been sent! Joe has taken care of that. But cheers for the reminder.

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UPDATE!

The Conquest Cup info has been added to the Conquest 2019 - Melbourne Easter Games Convention homepage (not alot but it is now on there. For all information see players pack)

https://www.conquest.asn.au/product-cat ... res-games/

Also with this latest news comes the confirmed limit on spaces. Unfortunately we will be limited to 24. Make sure you dont miss out on your seat at the triumphant return of a classic Vic tournament.

Tournament tickets will be available from 01 March onwards but expressions of interest are highly encouraged as TOs are actively seeking sponsorship.

Get excited sports fans!!

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